| 00:00 |
Mindless Banter: Charles’ hard disk failed and yet he managed to launch Podcast Planning on the Podango Podcast Mastery Network. David returned from Northern Voice, having met bloggers Robert Scoble and Lloyd Budd. |
| 04:00 |
News: WordPress 2.0.9 and 2.1.1 released. |
| 06:04 |
News: WordPress 2.1.1 compromised, update to 2.1.2 ASAP! |
| 07:45 |
News: WordPress.com is now an OpenID provider. |
| 12:02 |
Plug-In: BookCover v1.1 displays a book’s cover using its ISBN number. |
| 12:55 |
Plug-In: Ultimate Google Analytics v1.5.3 lets you track your blog pages using Google Analytics without having to hard-code your tracker in each theme’s files. You can even track downloads and ignore your own log-ins to the WordPress admin pages. |
| 14:56 |
Plug-In ImageShack Uploader v1.0.1b allows you to upload images to ImageShack, a free and easy-to-use hosting service which allows you to share your images with others, from your post screen and to insert them, along with the thumbnail, into your post with a few clicks. |
| 16:09 |
Plug-In: OpenID v86 lets visitors to a WordPress blog quickly register, login, and leave comments using their OpenID Identity. |
| 17:23 |
Plug-In: MarketingTrick v 1.0 gives access to full text of posts only to registered users, but also has some additional functionalities other than just to force users to register/login: You can specify a time delay before showing full text to not-registered(or logged) users; You can allow bots (google, yahoo, msn, archive etc) to view your full text always; You can show the short text in full text mode to not-registered users; and you can set the text that is displayed before the login form. |
| 18:59 |
Feedback: Jeremy Visser corrects my mispronunciation of LaTeX. |
| 20:04 |
Feedback: Erik J. Barzeski complains that Gravatar is still having problems. |
| 22:08 |
Feedback: Lloyd Budd tells us the new Blogger Importer is in the trunk. |
| 23:57 |
Feedback: Dave Shepard found the keystrokes necessary to bring up the additional editing features in WordPress v2.1 confusing and different in different operating systems. (And David continues to say OSX as “Mac OS X”.) |
| 25:46 |
Feedback: Gene Desepoli inquires about the Tarski theme, which, until recently, was the theme used on the blog here. |
| 27:25 |
Feedback: Alex Neihaus compliments us on the podcast, particularly our coverage of the permalink migration plug-in. |
| 29:20 |
Open Question: David wonders aloud, “Whatever happened with the KnowNow Enterprise Edition of WordPress?” |
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As a followup, because it was never mentioned in the podcast, the reason Automattic is maintaining the WordPress 2.0 branch is because it is being included in Debian Etch, the next stable release of Debian, which requires a commitment for security updates.
Hi guys - to your question about KnowNow, they’re actively marketing KWEE and have recently signed their first large Fortune 500 customer (not sure when it’ll be announced). More info on the product: http://knownow.com/category/?id=82.
If you could correct the spelling of my name (and remove this comment after doing so - at your discretion), I would appreciate it. Specifically “Eric” should be “Erik”.
Incidentally, yes, the proper gravatar is now being served.
Jeremy, Toni,
Good to know! Thanks!
Erik,
Done! Sorry.
Hi guy’s great podcast once again.
Cheers
Thanks for the great podcast again. But…
The intro and the outro would be more professional if it wouldn’t sound like you’ve recorded it in the bathroom.
That’s Cali Lewis doing me a favor, and I’m not one to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Just kidding, Charles. It’s ok.
I’m looking forward to the next episode.
Great pleasure meeting you David!
Another great cast guys!
Every hard drive will fail: Hard disk failures have caused myself, family and friends frustration and anxiety. Why do we entrust our work and play to something that is not made to last?
There are people that backup, and there are people that will.
Jeremy, I think our commitment (read: Mark Jaquith and Ryan Boren’s work) is more than Debian inclusion. It is an awesome commitment to all customers, and reflects what many customers have asked for.
Open ID: as more consumer services, the greatest benefit is having to trust fewer sites to implement password management — many services do a really poor job of this storing your password in plain text.
What differentiates Ultimate Google Analytics from the other half dozen Google Analytics WordPress plugins? I run Ronald Heft Jr’s Google Analyticator (Extend Entry) because he writes many good plugins, and the plugin development is hosted on wp-plugins so I know it is GPL-compatible and can track the development and bug fixes.
Blogger importer: has not yet been included in WordPress 2.1.x . I will talk to Ryan.
Plug-In OpenID: I run Will Norris’ Wordpress OpenID Plugin+ which is based on the one you use by Alan J Castonguay, but includes an “unobtrusive modeâ€.
Tarski: still seems to still be the theme here.
Minor issue: I don’t mind the the intro, but the intro voice is louder than the part right after it. Same at the end. Causing me to adjust my volume.
Blogger importer: I checked with Ryan and it can’t be included in the 2.1.x branch, because the new importer uses infrastructure only present on trunk (jQuery).
I am listening to your podcast for the first time as I was drawn to it by your coverage of OpenID. I wanted to clarify for you and your listeners how OpenID works and why OpenID is helpful and valuable.
First, the reason why OpenID is valuable is because it is distributed and that trust has been completely decoupled from the protocol. Six Apart invented OpenID because in its attempt to centralize identity management, just as Microsoft did with Passport, we failed. Don’t get me wrong, TypeKey works just fine, but the problem most users had with it was a lack of trust in the service. There was simply not enough transparency in what we were doing with their personal information when we facilitated a handshake between a commenter and a blog.
Because TypeKey’s sole purpose was to put an authentication firewall in front of commenters it begged the question: why can’t commenters login to a blog to comment using any previously established username and password? Why must they go through TypeKey?
The answer? No reason. We simply needed a standard for identity providers to follow.
Presto - OpenID was born. And it is succeeding specifically because it is decentralized. To centralize it will cripple it because it forces a user to trust the centralized system, which is not impossible, but VERY difficult.
Second - how OpenID works. No files are distributed for OpenID authentication to be enabled. Embedded in one’s OpenID URL is a pointer to an “OpenID Server” that a client will be directed to for the purposes of authentication. As far as a user is concerned this special OpenID server only allows someone to authenticate and then redirects the user back to where they came from (like a blog they are commenting on).
Finally, let’s talk about trust. I said earlier that OpenID succeeds because it decouples identity and trust, but you can’t completely ignore trust. Trust is something far more fuzzy and is not something that can be conferred by technology. It is something that is far more emotional then that. I myself have 10+ OpenIDs (LiveJournal, Vox, TypeKey, Digg, MyOpenID, AOL, Microsoft, etc, etc etc), but I don’t use them all. There is no need to. I choose my OpenID based upon which domain I think is the most trusted. Let me put it this way, if someone comes into your site and has commented via digg.com, do you trust them? Maybe, maybe not. It depends upon how you feel about digg. The same is true for people who authenticate from Vox.com. Do you trust Six Apart?
Don’t answer that.
I guess it would be interesting to ask, “if some has an OpenID, but never uses it to authenticate somewhere, does it really exist?”
I actually don’t think so.
In any event, I am ecstatic that Automattic is adopting OpenID. It is a great endorsement of the protocol to have Wordpress adopt this standard. Its success will ultimately based upon as many people adopting it and using it as possible.
And thanks for a great podcast!
Byrne Reese
Product Manager, Movable Type
Six Apart, Ltd.
Hear hear Byrne! It was a topic I did not feel equipped to address in detail in my own response. You did it very well.
So many great things come from Brad Fitzpatrick and Danga Interactive. It is fantastic how with your company’s leadership, Scott Kveton, his company JanRain, Chris Messina, and many other members of the identity community have championed OpenID, making it a reality!
What gets me happily excited is what David describes as a problem. That it is a federated architecture, meaning that a small, niche web service, or any site, can create an experience collaborating with their customers without trying to deal with the challenging problems of password management. You put it well when you say, “if some[one] has an OpenID, but never uses it to authenticate somewhere, does it really exist?†(Not sure who you are quoting? yourself?!)
Looking forward to more OpenID consumers!
Lloyd,
The reason why the opening and closing sound so much louder than the rest of the program is because the audio is compressed, unlike the stuff with David and myself.
I probably should re-do the opening and closings anyway, but to do it right, it’ll cost me about $100, which I can’t afford right now. If anyone wants to donate, there’s a PayPal button on the sidebar. And no, I won’t lose the jazz music!
The new theme looks fantastic!
I can associate an OpenID service (LiveJournal, TypeKey, Digg, wordpress) with my one id, is that correct? Like if I tell these sites that they’re all one person then I eliminate the multiple logins that the podcast was asking about.
I think the trust issue mentioned in the podcast–fooling people into thinking one person with different ids is seperate people–I don’t think this is a problem that OpenID is aiming to eliminate. Is it?
I’m a first time listener, great podcast! Thanks for imageshack and book cover plug in info, they will save me time! I’m checking out the google analytics as well sounds like a keeper!
i’m using idlogger (http://www.idlogger.com) for web statistics, it’s very powerfull and affordable.